Project CARS 2 Nighttigers's Step-by-Step Setup Guide (1 Viewer)

miagi

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thanks for the reply, but I guess I was not clear enough.



I get this, but does this matter for an individual lap (ie your brakes are terrible at 1400) or is it only a factor that starts to cause brake damage, and it is that damage that causes poor brake performance.
Will differ from car to car a bit but I can tell you for sure that when I run Hot laps in the FR3.5 and the brakes run hotter and hotter (because the ducts are too small) there will be a braking point where my brake temps are too high and I miss the apex with my usual braking point. Whenever this happens I notice about 1400°C on the hud. It's not necessarily the surface temperature that is the problem but the overall temperature of the system before starting to brake. Or it could be the surface temperature directly. It's hard to say but whatever it is, it's helped with more cooling.
I'm not sure if there is a soft degradation e.g. between entering the braking point with brake temps at 300°C and 500°C. I feel like there is a window where the brakes are OK and there is not much of a difference in performance but I'm not 100% sure. The FR3.5 with our short races doesn't collect much brake damage I think. There are other cars and endurance races that can be effected. In real life, if you don't run the brakes too hot the brake pads and to a degree discs will wear, but until you reach a certain point of wear the performance should be consistent. Carbon-Ceramic discs (like used on road cars) are a bit different about that, they wear in a much more complicated way and the danger here is that the disc stability is reduced and it can disintegrate at some point without having viewable indications of wear.
There can be a problem in real life that if you get the pads to high temps, the surface will become like glas and that will kill brake performance as the pads don't work as they should any more. (This rather happens if there is a general problem with the pad/disc setup or the pads grind on the disc.) But I don't think the game does that?!
 
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Fantastic resource, thank you. I will be printing this and studying it today!

Just a side note, is there a setup sharing page? I find it very handy to see how other people are setting their vehicles up so I can start trying to understand how certain set up changes affect car behaviour.
 

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Fantastic resource, thank you. I will be printing this and studying it today!

Just a side note, is there a setup sharing page? I find it very handy to see how other people are setting their vehicles up so I can start trying to understand how certain set up changes affect car behaviour.
I'd recommend joining up for one of the seasonal championships then. The last few have worked as a PRO/AM team, pairing a more experienced driver with a more novice one. I've learned a lot from working with more experienced drivers who have been able to share/discuss setups for tracks that we were jointly preparing for.

Another good way is to look for practice sessions coming up to one of the ranked events. People will often setup a practice session a day or two before. It's a great chance to ask questions on setup and many people are willing to give advice.

If you check all the links in Nighttiger's guide, there are at least a couple that show visually what is happening in corners (there is a great one of Catalunya showing where suspension/ roll bars take effect). It's worth investigating the (basic) physics of turning and mentally thinking through what is happening to the car on the corner. I've found this technique to be most valuable when combined with an understanding of what each setting changes about physical characteristics.

Finally, there is nothing like going onto a circuit, and putting settings to their extremes! You should be able to identify changes to steering and responsiveness. @Nighttiger mentions it in his guide, but to really be worth it you should make sure you are already doing consistent laps in a default setup, so you can actually feel the changes. Personally I find that I still need 50-100 laps of a car/track before I can genuinely gauge fine tuned changes to something like suspension. I've got this down over time from around 200 laps...so I hope that with continued practice that I can get it down further. My team mate @SBart_uk from season 5 seems to be able to get consistency in around 10-20 laps, which obviously improves the ability to feel setup changes. This part of course takes experience (or in my cause brute force lapping).
 

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Wow thank you for the in depth response. I would be thrilled to be considered for the PRO/AM champs in time, I think right now I just need to earn my stripes and get used to racing with some talented racers.

I know I have a lot to learn but I am so impressed with the friendliness of this forum and group, I’m really looking forward to getting to know you all! (Provided I can earn my probation status next week!)

Thanks again for the advice though, I am taking it all on board and trying to get my lap times consistent +/- 1%. That’s my first hurdle!
 

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Wow thank you for the in depth response. I would be thrilled to be considered for the PRO/AM champs in time, I think right now I just need to earn my stripes and get used to racing with some talented racers.

I know I have a lot to learn but I am so impressed with the friendliness of this forum and group, I’m really looking forward to getting to know you all! (Provided I can earn my probation status next week!)

Thanks again for the advice though, I am taking it all on board and trying to get my lap times consistent +/- 1%. That’s my first hurdle!
No need to be considered for the pro/am teams. For our project cars league “Revolution Cup” currently open to all probationers and members. Normally your championship status(PRO or AM) is based upon experience and TT times and is designed to help those who struggle with certain aspects of racing and to stop the “aliens” from teaming up and dominating.

We are always learning and improving and along with the friendly happy community, we are also privilaged to have so many members willing to help others improve.
 

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This looks great except i mainly work from an iPad and its really dificult to read in a small box.. Will you be releasing a pdf, I dont mind making a donation.
Thank you
 

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